IT’S ALL ABOUT THE NAMES!

Todays genealogy article from our guest blogger Deborah Large Fox is about how to understand Irish names.

Patterns. I have been surprised at the number of researchers who have found that their families, especially in the 1800′s and earlier, did indeed follow a traditional naming pattern. While the pattern sometimes varied with locality or family, generally the first son was named after the paternal grandfather, the second after the maternal grandfather, and the third after the father (with daughters, reverse, with the first daughter named after the maternal grandmother, etc.). Various aunts’ and uncles’ names followed. In families where the naming pattern was not present, I have often found that it was in fact followed, but that an older child had died and the name was re-used for a later born child. So, if your ancestral names did not seem to follow a pattern, be on the lookout for a deceased older sibling, or for a sibling that you have not yet discovered.

Middle Names. I have found that Irish families varied in their use of middle names. Every researcher I ask seems to have had a different experience with middle names. Two stories are often repeated by researchers about the middle names in their families. One is that ancestors were called by their middle names to distinguish between the members of a large family with a number of identical names. In the 1800′s, baptismal records, both Roman Catholic and Church of Ireland, in the southern counties rarely list a middle name. I have found more middle names recorded in nineteenth century church records in the northern counties. When an ancestor is known in family records only by his or her middle name, finding their official or church records can be difficult indeed.
Many researchers have discovered that their ancestor’s middle name was not given at birth, but was taken as a confirmation name. This practice can wreak havoc with one’s research. Few lists of comfirmands from earlier times exist, and I have seen no lists with “taken” confirmation names.
Many researchers have reported that, at an ancestor’s baptism, the Catholic priest demanded that the parents choose a middle name for a child if that child’s first name was not that of a saint’s. Stories abound about this practice–well into the 1950′s and 60′s! I am not sure if this practice was limited to twentieth century America, but it seemed to have arisen in many American cities when Irish immigrants began breaking with the traditional naming patterns and choosing fashionable names.

Nicknames. Ahh, the nickname–created by our Irish ancestors just so that they could look down upon us one day and laugh as we spend years searching for great Gramma Nancy’s records when Nancy’s name was really Anne! And Helen was Ellen, and Ted was Edward, and Biddy was Bridget, and Dick was Richard, and Sallie was Sarah…
One word to researchers of very common surnames: in Ireland, family groups with the same surname were often given family nicknames to distinguish the branches from each other. You might have the Red Brennan’s and the Black Brennan’s, or the Tarlar Donaghy’s, to name a few I have seen. Knowing your family’s ancestral nickname, if they had one, is a crucial research tool when researching local Irish records, especially if you are researching a very common surname such as Kelly or Murphy.
Gaelic and Latin Names. Be on the lookout for Anglicized Gaelic names, especially as you go back in time and into Irish records. As you research RC church records, keep in mind that many priests, both in the US and in Ireland, wrote the names in Latin. Often, the Latin names bear no resemblance to the English or Gaelic names–Eugenio for Owen is one example.
I said it before and I will say it again, Irish genealogy research wouldn’t be so much fun if it were simpler, now would it?

For more information on your family research visit Deborah’s blog spot:

http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.ie/

Maureen Gillis, Massachusetts & Paul Comeau, Texas.

Paul Comeau

Paul Comeau
Maureen Gillis from Hull, Massachusetts is presented with her Certificate of Irish Heritage by her cousin Paul Comeau from San Antonio, Texas.

Paul and Maureen, who received their Citzenship together are also proud recipients of the Certificate of Irish Heritage.

Their Certificates honour their Grandparents Coleman Costello from County Galway and Mary McKessy from County Limerick.

Paul says that he is “Looking forward to visiting the relatives in Inverin, just outside of Galway, in few months”

Paul Comeau & Maureen Gillis

David Andrew McNamee, Trenton, Ontario, Canada.

David Andrew McNamee

I gave the certificate to my father on June 17 for Father’s Day. He said it was “the best gift I ever received”. He will be 92 in December.

Here’s a photo of him with his certificate, which says, ‘David Andrew McNamee is a descendant of William McNamee, born 1834 in Co. Donegal’. William was his grandfather. William and his parents, who were from County Antrim, all emigrated to Canada in 1847.

Dad was born in Killarney, Manitoba, in 1920, when his father was 50 years old. His father Andrew was born in Mooresville (near Lucan), Ontario in 1870. He also has Irish ancestry on his mother’s side, all from the north. The rest were Scottish.

by Terry McNamee

Actor Chris O’ Donnell receives his Certificate of Irish Heritage

Chris O' Donnell

Chris O Donnell admires his Certificate

Actor Chris O’ Donnell admires his Certificate of Irish Heritage yesterday outside Ashford Castle Co. Mayo. The Certificate which honors his parental Great Grandparents was presented to him by Minister of State for Tourism and Sport, Michael Ring. Minister Ring said: “It’s a pleasure to be able to present Chris O’Donnell with a Certificate of Irish Heritage. I’m delighted that he has chosen to visit Ireland for his photoshoot..”

Chris O’ Donnell’s parental Great Grandfather, William O’ Donnell hailed from County Donegal and immigrated to the USA in 1855 age 9 with his family, where he met and married Irish born Johanna Kennedy in 1875, they had 5 children he eldest of whom was Chris O’ Donnell Grandfather John J. O’ Donnell.

Michael John O’Donoghue, Adelaide, South Australia

Michael John O'Donoghue

Michael John O'Donoghue My Father was born in Lacken Cappoquin (Co. Waterford) in November of 1917. My Mother was born only a few Miles away in Moneygorm in August of 1921. Both of My Parents attended the same One Room School (in Affane Cappoquin) and both Walked along the same Road for several Miles, until they reached the ‘Y Junction’ at Murphy’s Forge, (Bawnfoun) where One went Left, the other Right. My Father had One Brother and Four Sisters, whilst My Mother had One Sister and One Brother.

My Mother’s Family (The Ketts) who had only recently returned from America, (the reason why her older Sister was American) to Tend the Family Farm, were quite a well to do Family in the District, having a Large Farm which is still ‘a Kett Farm’ to this Day. My Fathers Family (The Donoghues of Lacken) were less so, having simply a Cottage and a Field or two. Today the site of that Cottage bears a new House, with a new Family, who well remember The Donoghues of Lacken. In 2009, whilst attending My Mother’s Burial (Affane Churchyard opposite her One Room Schoolhouse) I was introduced to “My Neighbours” from Lacken. This was despite My never having Lived in Lacken and this being My First Visit to Ireland in over 40 Years. Unfortunately circumstances prevented My Father from dying (as was his Wish) at Home (in Ireland) and he is buried in Adelaide, South Australia.

My Father being Intellectually Gifted, did extremely well at School, but was still forced out of the Education System at an early age, to get a Job and support the Family. My Father was a prodigious Musician capable of playing amongst others Spoons, Mouth Organ, Saw, Tin Whistle, Drums, Piano, Guitar, Piano Accordion, Squeeze Box and Fiddle. My Father was a member of several Bands (all it seems at the same Time) and played regularly at Dances all over the District. So prodigious were his musical talents, that My Mother (in an effort to have some peace & quiet in Our Adelaide House) ‘forced’ My Father to build a Shed at the bottom of Our Garden, where Father spent Years filling the air with his harmonious melodies. And all from Memory (another of his prodigious Gifts).

My Mother, like many young women of her Age, (and perhaps of her social status) received a better Education (although she was far less Gifted than My Father) and was mainly ‘dead keen’ on Dancing (sneaking out of the House after Lights Out, only to sneak Back In before her Father woke her to Milk the Cows). Although both of My Parents were fluent in the Irish Language until their dying Days, My fluency is limited to a few simple phrases of Welcome and Departure. My Irish Language lessons, having gone the same way as My French Language lessons, when We moved to Australia (too far from anywhere to ever need them, was the reasoning).

What it was that drew them to each other I don’t know, but in August of 1955, in the quiet English Village of Ashtead, (Surrey) My Parents were Married and then moved into ‘32 The Street’, a Family House (which it appears her Parents bought for her). Perhaps it was a condition of their Purchase, (or not) but that they Lived there with Us, until their Deaths in 1959.

In September 1967, My Parents brought Me (only child) to Adelaide, South Australia where I still reside. Being as I am a member of a large Irish Family, (Irish Cousins too numerous to list) and being (by Birth) English, becoming Irish has always held for Me, a fatal fascination.

One could argue that I don’t Need a Certificate of Irish Heritage because of My Surname. One could argue that I don’t Need a Certificate of Irish Heritage because of My Saffron Kilt. One could argue that I don’t Need a Certificate of Irish Heritage because I possess an Irish Passport. But the fact is that I can’t hang My Surname on a wall and hanging My Passport or My Kilt is neither practical nor particularly beautiful. But hanging a superbly crafted and framed, Official Certificate of Irish Heritage issued by the Government of Ireland, is something I can Proudly Display. And I can remember that My Certificate of Irish Heritage is not available to People of Irish Heritage who were born in Ireland. And that is worth remembering. Why My Irish Heritage is important to Me isn’t in itself important. What is important is that it is important. And I can prove that by hanging and proudly displaying My Certificate of Irish Heritage in a place of honour and that really is all that is important.

My Body may forever be English, but My Heart will forever be Irish.

 

PREPARING FOR A GENEALOGY TRIP

Today our genealogy tip is a vital one, how to prepare for your genealogy trip from our guest blogger Deborah Large Fox.
Armchair genealogy research has its limits. Sooner or later, most family historians take a research trip. Many records are in local repositories and must be researched in person. Many people take a trip to Ireland or other ancestral location to gain deeper insights into their families’ culture and experiences. Proper planning is key to a successful research trip or genealogical vacation.
A trip can provide the motivation to tackling the organization of your genealogy files. You need to target your research tasks. What ancestors will you be hunting? What sort of records–civil or church, birth or marriage or death–do you lack for those ancestors? Are those records available at your destinations?
Before your trip, determine what records you want to see, where they are located, and when they are available. You do not want to waste valuable time on your trip doing work that could have been completed at home. Reputable guides to Irish records, such as John Grenham’s Tracing Your Irish Ancestors or James G. Ryan’s Irish Records: Sources for Family and Local History, are invaluable to Irish family historians. Much preparation can be done online. Most libraries, archives, and other records repositories have online catalogs detailing their holdings. You can call or email the facility to determine if their holdings include the type of records you want for the years you need. Remember to check the hours and days the facility is open, especially during summer vacation periods, when some facilities close. Check if you need an appointment. I’ve heard many a tale of researchers who traveled a long way only to face a “closed” sign and locked door!
Time is a crucial factor to be considered in planning the trip, especially if you want to combine research and leisure. Leave room in your itinerary for enjoying surprises and pursuing discoveries. I would err on the side of including extra leisure time, especially if you are visiting Ireland. Experiencing the culture and seeing the country is important to your family history journey as well.
Be aware that research takes time. Many records that you will need in Ireland are in closed stacks. Often, a researcher must fill out a retrieval request, and a staff member will bring you the records from the archive. During busy times, this process may take twenty minutes or so, another reason to have all the retrieval information with you, including call or file numbers, when you arrive at the facility. You should be ready to fill out those slips immediately upon sitting down!
Every minute of preparation leaves time for research, and fun, on your trip!

For more information on your family research visit Deborah’s blog spot:

http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.ie/

Richard Jenkins, Glenhaven, Australia

RJ In Ireland Shoveling Peat

RJ In Ireland Shoveling PeatMichael Lahy was my Great Great Grandfather, he was born in county Tipperary in 1793 and was baptised in the parish of Carrick-On-Suir on 21st September 1795. I do not know much about his parents John Lahy and Maria Farrell or any details of Michaels early years in Ireland. But at the age of 25 Michael came to Australia as a convict.
In 1815, at age 24, he was arrested as a ringleader in an uprising against the British landlords in County Tipperary. Of his 14 fellow conspirators all were found guilty of insurrection against the crown, one was hanged and the rest, including Michael were transported to Australia. Michael arrived in the colony on the Surrey 2 in December, 1816.
By 1821 Michael was completely rehabilitated and earned his conditional pardon, two years ahead of the time he would normally have expected it. He had been assigned to work for Sir John Jameson, a prominent landholder in the colony.
Michael led a very colourful life in Australia, becoming a significant and prominent landholder in his own right, in the Mudgee region of New South Wales. He Married Mary Anne Thurston (Daughter of a convict) on 25th July 1833 and they had eight children together, one of whom being my Great Grandmother Catherine Lahy.
Catherine married my Great Grandfather Michael Brophy on 8th November 1852. Michael had also been born in Ireland in County Kilkenny on 16th may 1817 and came to Australia as an agricultural Labourer on the 18th October 1840 on the emigrant ship Isabella. Michael had been working as a labourer for Michael Lahy on his property near Mudgee where he and Catherine met and fell in love. They had nine children together including my Grandfather Frank Brophy who was born in Mudgee in 1870.
Frank worked his father’s land near Mudgee and married Catherine Rogers (Granddaughter of a convict) on 9th March 1895 at St John’s Church Gulgong; they had seven children together the last of whom, was my Mother Noreen Brophy who was born on 2 July 1907.
I am very proud of my Irish Heritage and the certificate I have been given to attest to it. I can pass my ancestral heritage on to my own children with pride.

 

Common Surname? Don’t Despair!

Ireland 1808

Today we publish our genealogy tips on common surnames from our guest blogger Deborah Large Fox.

At my genealogy presentations, I often meet people who have given up researching their Irish roots. Most of them have the same complaint: a family surname that is ubiquitous throughout much of Ireland.
“My family’s name is Kelly (or Murphy or Brennan). And, everyone is named Mary and John and Patrick. It would be impossible to find them!” Difficult? Perhaps. Impossible? Never!
Every family is unique, even if the members share a surname with millions of other Irish descendants around the world. To track a family with a very common surname, you will need to be methodical, patient, detail-oriented, and determined. You will spend much time eliminating other families with the same surname, as well as tracking your own ancestors.
As all family historians must do, it is very important to begin with the present day family and work backwards. Your aim is to discover every possible detail about your family members and to determine what distinguishes them from all others with the same name.
As you go back through the generations, spot those characteristics that make your family recognizable. Did many of your ancestors have the same profession or trade? One woman found her family in County Waterford by researching brush makers. Another is following the paper trail left by generations of ancestors who entered the clergy.
Do your relatives share any distinguishing physical characteristics or special talents? Do special nicknames reoccur in your family stories? Often in rural Ireland, one nickname is given to a family branch to distinguish them from others, the Reds O’Brien’s or the Black Brennan’s, for example (hair color is often a distinguishing characteristic of family branches).
Those with a common surname must also pay special attention to the friends and family of their ancestors. Besides researching the baptismal sponsors and marriage witnesses, do a bit of digging on the neighbors and, especially, on the business partners, fellow workers, and fellow parishioners. These people might possibly have emigrated from the same location as your ancestor.
DNA testing can be a brick wall breaker in the case of common surnames. Many DNA surname studies collect and collate family records as well as DNA matches, enabling members to map out and connect family lines that could be difficult to distinguish otherwise.
Don’t forget: you may have a common surname, but your family is unique!

For more information on your family research visit Deborah’s blog spot:

http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com/

 

Kelly Barry, New Jersey, USA.

Kelly Barry - Kilmacduogh Monastic site Gort, Co Galway

Kelly Barry - Kilmacduogh Monastic site Gort, Co Galway
We have traced our ancestors on both sides of the family, and find that all 16 Great Grandparents emigrated as married couples to the Province of Quebec, Canada between 1810 and 1830. All arrived at two small farming villages 7 miles apart, acquired some land, and began farming. It is interesting that the look of the area is quite similar to Ireland, so they must have felt quite at home – except for the winters.

My father’s family emigrated to Manchester, NH in the early 1920s, and he eventually moved south to New Jersey. When he returned for a wedding in one of the Canadian villages, he met a woman who would become his wife – and our mother. Living in several places in NJ, they raised 6 sons – and we returned to one of those villages every summer until we each turned 16 and stayed behind in NJ to work.

I have been to Ireland twice, and love the place. The photo of three young men is taken at the Kilmacduogh Monastic site near Gort in County Galway – one of several historical O’Shaughnessy sites in the area – my mother’s family.

The Certificate of Irish Heritage – one each for all 6 of us – is a big hit, and will be treasured as “keepers” by all of us.

Kelly Barry.

Kevin Eugene O’Shea, Alberta, Canada

Kevin O Shea - Ratass Cemetry

Kevin O Shea - Ratass Cemetry

My Great Great Grandfather, Eugene B. O’Shea was born in Ratass townland, near Tralee in 1841. He emigrated to America in 1863. Eugene settled in Laconia, New Hampshire where he worked in the textile industry. Eugene married Mary Roche in New Hampshire in 1865. Mary was born in Williamstown, County Galway. They had eight children including Dennis, my Great Grandfather.

Eugene’s parents were Denis and Johanna (Barton) Denis and Johanna lived around the Tralee area, most notably Ratass townland. They were married in 1833 and had ten children between 1834 and 1857. Two of their children were born during the Famine and another five, including Eugene were between the ages of one and eleven when it began. Unfortunately I have been unable to find any records of either Denis or Johanna before or after the years 1833-1857. I joined the Family Tree yDNA Project a few years back. It is supported by administrators from both Ireland and the U.S.A. The Project has uncovered a lot of solid information about the O’Shea families in Ireland and is beginning to point its members to specific locations in Ireland.

The attached picture is from our trip to Ireland in 2010. It was taken at Ratass cemetery, close to the places my ancestors lived. The church is of ancient origins and within its walls is a Ogham stone.
Kevin Eugene O’Shea